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Maria

I agree with the concept of being a dog owner versus dog guardian. I have a semi-related question. I signed into a bad deal on a puppy contract with a breeder. Does anyone know if these are usually enforceable? The breeder I got my dog from heard 3rd or 4th hand that because I took my puppy to a dog trainer, I was looking to sell her. Not true, but at any rate, the contract I unfortunately signed, has a clause that reads if at anytime in the dog's life, I can't or don't want to keep it, I cannot sell it or place it in a home myself, but must return it to the breeder for free. I don't ever plan to do this, but I'd like to think I would be able to place her with a friend of family, and not surrender her to the breeder I paid $500 to for ownership of the dog. Now the crazy breeder is pestering me on the phone, threatening me with legal action if what she got through her grapevine is true, and asking me if I have her shots up to date (I do, of course), and just generally being rude and insulting to me. I don't know who gave her the notion in the first place that I was selling the dog, but she is so weird and harassing, I wish I had never visited this breeder. I do love my little dog so giving it back to the breeder just to be rid of the crazy lady is not an option. Has anyone had a similar experience or have advice on dealing with this? Thanks in advance!

Joanne

I agree that we should not become guardians. A few points that you missed re: how bad it could be. By being a guardian, we should not be able to euthanize our pets. What about the terminally ill dog who is suffering? We can't euthanize humans/children when THEY are sick. Also, what about spay/neuter? These elective surgeries are not in the best interest of the pet - their "natural" life dictates that they should breed. And what about people who cannot afford veterinary care? Who will take care of those pets and pay for their care (vaccinations, emergency care, etc.)? As guardians of children, we cannot let these things go, or else we'd be convicted of child abuse and neglect. What about dogs that bite? Do we incarcerate them for "x" years, like a criminal, and then release them? Is there a death penalty? Who is the guardian then - the county, the original owner, who? And then shelter animals - who are their guardians? Same things apply to these animals. The county would have to take care of them until they die or are adopted out. Children in orphanages are not euthanized. (and in NO WAY am I stating that humans should be treated as such - it's just comparing animals - 2 or 4 legged).

Paul Bonneau

Your article reminds me of the importance of the meaning of words, and how they are manipulated by those in power. This was commented on by Friedrich Hayek, in his book "The Road to Serfdom":

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"The most effective way of making people accept the validity of the values they are to serve is to persuade them that they are really the same as those which they... have always held... The people are made to transfer their allegiance from the old gods to the new under the pretense that the new gods really are what their sound instinct had always told them but what before they had only dimly seen. And the most effective way to this end is to use the old words but change their meaning.

Few traits of totalitarian regimes are at the same time so confusing to the superficial observer and yet so characteristic of the whole intellectual climate as the complete perversion of language, the change of meaning of the words by which the ideals of the new regimes are expressed....

If one has not one's self experienced this process, it is difficult to appreciate the magnitude of this change of the meaning of words, the confusion it causes, and the barriers to any rational discussion which it creates... And the confusion becomes worse because this change of meaning of words describing political ideals is not a single event but a continuous process, a technique employed consciously or unconsciously to direct the people. Gradually, as this process continues, the whole language becomes despoiled, and words become empty shells deprived of any definite meaning, as capable of denoting one thing as its opposite and used solely for the emotional associations which still adhere to them."

sam anderer

Comments about guardianship are correct.
Your comments about our Constitution and democracy are incorrect. Our beloved country and form of government was not founded as a democracy which is mob rule. We were founded as a republic. Big difference. We only became a democracy with the acceptance of the de facto 17th Amendment, electing out Senators instead of the state legistlators appointing them to the Senate. This gave 100 people more power than those in the House. The Senate is supposed to represent state interests.
As for the 14th Amendment it made us 'citizens' of the ten square miles called Washington, D.C. Suggest you examine the marketing ploys used to feed you false info concerning exactly what our fore- fathers intended. See if you can find the following book:
Pied Pipers of Babylong, by Verl K. Speer, D.C.L. copyright 1985
There are many other texts available that will set the record straight. do a google search on "common law". Good hunting. sam in az

Stephanie

The animal rights people (not to be confused with animal welfare folks) want to elevate animals to equal status with humans. They want all animals to be wild.

This means no one will be able to own pets or animals. Oh, you won't be able to eat any, either.

But what of the animals? Don't they eat other animals? Yeh, but the AR people really want a vegan world. Never mind the fact that this planet is one giant food chain and never has been a vegan world. They want to change the very nature of the Earth.

Can anyone spell "God complex?"

Micheline Hellwege

To anyone who thinks changing our status from pet owner to pet guardian is benign, I ask ... Why do these groups want laws passed? Why do they think it's necessary? Wouldn't a simple change in vocabulary be enough? What's in it for them?

Denise

Thank you for taking this stand. It has encouraged me to be more vocal in my desire to retain ownership of my pets, as opposed to being their guardian. Guardianship is a slippery slope that will hurt both pet-owners and pets in the long run.

Steve Bodio

This needs saying, repeatedly. I'll be linking on my blog. And-- I have a post there on the California coursing controversy you might want to look at too:http://stephenbodio.blogspot.com/2006/03/coursing-redux.html

Janice in GA

Thank you for stating this. So many people who want to do good for their animals are being sucked in by the kind of propaganda you're describing. And they do NOT have our best interests at heart.

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